On the continued Chavez question:
The reaction to Chavez's speech does not illustrate a divide between liberals and the left. It illustrates a divide between those who so fervently hate George Bush that they'll applaud any moron who takes cheap shots and reasonable people who disagree with Bush's policies but aren't willing to get behind a speech that Jerry Falwell wouldn't even deliver if it were about Clinton.
"The devil, the devil himself, is right in this house."
"And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here." [crosses himself] "And it smells of sulfur still today."
"An Alfred Hitchcock movie could use it as a scenario. I would even propose a title: "The Devil's Recipe."
Chavez said he had to wash his Noam Chomsky book (you can't make this stuff up) "with holy water because I put it in the same place that the devil put his papers."
Could you imagine if "the devil himself" had given a speech with such references on the floor of the UN?
And, from Mike's post:
"And I suspect many leftists would have probably been happier had Chavez added chapter and verse evidence for his assertions, though I suspect time limits precluded that.”
Yeah. That must have been it.